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MeneM
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 92 Location: Amsterdam
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 Sharpening presets
Hi all, These two presets are for sharpening your photo's. They depend not only on the internal Sharpening but also on the existence of a registered Noise Ninja. There's the "a bit sharpened" (Left part of the example) and the "alotta sharpening" (Right side of the example)  (Larger version here: http://www.maas-martin.nl/gallery2/d/41 ... +5+Pro.pngThe presets: A lot was learned from here. Last but not least, later versions of Bibble may have better capabilities then this. (Later than 5.0 I mean)
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| Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:36 am |
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MeneM
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 92 Location: Amsterdam
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 Re: Sharpening presets
Another example: This below eye is the original file at 100%, the top left was a bit sharpened, the top right was sharpened a lot.  Larger version: http://www.maas-martin.nl/gallery2/d/41344-1/Screenshot-Bibble+5+Pro-1.png
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| Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:21 am |
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Clari
Joined: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:59 am Posts: 151 Location: Bonn, Germany
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 Re: Sharpening presets
That looks good. Thank you!
*thumbs up*
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| Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:30 pm |
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Trucks
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:36 am Posts: 423 Location: Regensburg
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 Re: Sharpening presets
Hi,
thx for sharing. With which cam did you work?
Trucks
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| Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:46 pm |
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bilbolodz
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:07 am Posts: 14
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 Re: Sharpening presets
Hi,
Actually after applying Abbito B5 crashes... (at least under Linux).
Best regards
Piotr
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| Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:29 pm |
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MeneM
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 92 Location: Amsterdam
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 Re: Sharpening presets
Trucks wrote: Hi,
thx for sharing. With which cam did you work?
Trucks This was made with a D90 and the 85mm 1.8 AF-D lens. bilbolodz wrote: Hi,
Actually after applying Abbito B5 crashes... (at least under Linux).
Best regards
Piotr I use Linux as well! 64bit Ubuntu. But I'm guessing you do not have a registered Version of Noise Ninja?
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| Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:22 pm |
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andreas
Joined: Wed May 15, 2002 1:31 am Posts: 821 Location: Wermelskirchen - Germany
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 Re: Sharpening presets
checked without registered version of nn on ubuntu and did not get a crash - and no effect of course.
Andreas
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| Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:35 pm |
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MeneM
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 92 Location: Amsterdam
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 Re: Sharpening presets
bilbolodz wrote: Hi,
Actually after applying Abbito B5 crashes... (at least under Linux).
Best regards
Piotr Hi again, It seems that perhaps you are experiencing some sort of bug. Please report in here while reading thisThanks, MeneM
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| Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:47 pm |
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dentharg
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:27 am Posts: 146 Location: Tomaszow Mazowiecki / Poland
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 Re: Sharpening presets
Will these work as expected without registered NN?
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:12 am |
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MeneM
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 92 Location: Amsterdam
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 Re: Sharpening presets
dentharg wrote: Will these work as expected without registered NN? Nope sorry, you will need a registered version as the presets use the USM function of NN.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:17 am |
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bananahead
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:30 am Posts: 51
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 Re: Sharpening presets
Both of these examples look really great posted here. But when I look at the versions in your gallery they look horrible. Really nasty artifacts everywhere.
I will have to get a license for NN now.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:47 am |
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MeneM
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 92 Location: Amsterdam
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 Re: Sharpening presets
Do you mean these? http://www.maas-martin.nl/gallery2/d/41 ... +5+Pro.pngPerhaps the USM of NN is masking / smoothing out the sharpening effects. Full eyes example: Attachment:
DSC_3838x1024.jpg [ 170.49 KiB | Viewed 1295 times ]
Last edited by MeneM on Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:19 am, edited 1 time in total.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:05 am |
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bdemaistre
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:53 pm Posts: 16 Location: Cherbourg - France
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 Re: Sharpening presets
Thanks for your presets Thanks also for giving the link to some advices about sharpening What I found strange is that, as explained in the link you mention, the sharpening is really the last step in order to adapt to the human view : as such it is really dependent on the printing or screen resolution used for output. So the use of either the NN or bibble sharpening is OK for full size output only for example if you limit the radius to 0,5 then it is ok for viewing 100%crop and not for print or web. on the opposite a radius of 3 is ok for small resized web picture but will look really bad viewed at 100% before resampling. Worst : resampling will kill some of the unsharp mask benefit ... I will better rely on the output batch sharpening to avoid such problem, but it's a pity there is no preview for it and that it is not possible to adjust its value for each picture !
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:12 am |
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MeneM
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 92 Location: Amsterdam
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 Re: Sharpening presets
The way I've understood is is that one should first do all the things you'd want to do on the picture, colors, etc.
Then do the first sharpening. Then, in the output batch do another sharpening. with a .3 radius.
Ofcourse tastes matter, but I like the extreme sharpening. They tend to look good when printed.
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:23 am |
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tuxx
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:38 pm Posts: 110 Location: Denmark, Europe
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This just looks outstanding! Your before/after is magnificent. I too have similar before-shots, but no matter what I do I cannot get that sharpness without artifacts. I tried your preset and it gave me a cold shoulder - nothing I couldn't do in 2 sec with the sharness-slider = not good enough. From what I can read here in this thread I need a license for Noise Ninja. I assume which one is irrelevant as Bibble accepts'em all. Will a working license get me same results as this? I mean - can I by any means trust what I see now without my license or will the result differ greatly with one? I'm at the tip of the purchase-button...  Edit: I know it's kindda been answered before.. I'm just struggling to comprehense that all I need is that "stupid" license to gain such great effect...
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:56 am |
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